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    Los ex-Stratovarius responden a Tolkki.

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    Mensaje por Albytor Miér 07 Mayo 2008, 22:35

    Continua el culebrón Timo Tolkki. Sus ahora ex-compañeros Timo Kotipelto, Jens Johansson, Lauri Porra y Jörg Michael han hecho un comunicado dónde responden las declaraciones del lider de los ahora difuntos Stratovarius y lo dejan a la altura del betún. Ahí va la sala rosa metal:

    "Timo Tolkki published a statement on April 2 this year. The other members of STRATOVARIUS
    would now like to set the record straight. You can't argue with
    someone's perception of things, you can just explain how you see things
    differently.

    "The confrontations, fights, incompetence,
    tensions, negativity, bitterness, hostility, disinterest, bad
    musicianship, and unfriendliness that Timo described were never there. He constructed this alternate reality around these simple and for him painful facts:

    1) The band's momentum has been slowing since 2004.

    2) The media chaos of 2004 made him lose a lot of trust and respect both within and outside the band.

    3) STRATOVARIUS' label Sanctuary had severe financial problems from 2005 on. It forced us to start a legal process at the beginning of 2007.

    "If
    you live your life through other people's eyes, declining sales or a
    perceived loss of power are matters of deep, stinging personal
    humiliation.

    "Other sad facts remain. The legal fight left us without a way to make a new album, and financially strapped. Timo's main motivation for what he did was greed, not issues of friendship or art.

    "In the summer of 2007, he presented the STRATOVARIUS/REVOLUTION RENAISSANCE demos we had all financed and recorded to Frontiers Records, and signed a recording agreement for a solo project. Unbelievably, he promised Frontiers that he alone could (and would) stop STRATOVARIUS from being active for the duration of the R.R. project, for marketing reasons. In exchange for this, Timo alone was paid 154,000 US dollars. He did this behind our backs, as we were deep in pursuit of Sanctuary
    legally with a large legal bill. He still hasn't had the guts to tell
    us what he did. We pieced it together from various press releases of
    his and scattered email correspondence.

    "In October he sent us a
    mail saying he didn't want to continue, a quite impersonal way after
    having been in the same band for 12 years. He explained that he was
    tired of STRATOVARIUS, and would concentrate on things like his
    opera. We had known for some time he really hated playing live. He did
    not mention anything about his Frontiers deal, which placed the
    rest of us at great financial risk. He very clearly asked that we
    wouldn't contact him and try to talk him out of it, which we all
    respected. He would later make much of the fact that nobody tried to
    talk him out of it.

    "This year, Sanctuary agreed to settle, but Timo's announcement and Timo's
    announcement alone ruined that, leaving us with a debt of 54,000 US
    dollars. The total loss is around 346,000 US dollars. There was no
    reason for the timing of his announcement other than some foolish
    belief it would make the promotion of Timo's project record a
    bit easier. What he did to the rest of us was stupid, selfish and more
    than disappointing to us since we all stood shoulder to shoulder with
    him financially in 2004.

    "Then late January, surprisingly, he proposed us playing as hired guns on R.R. (turning it into a STRATOVARIUS record), and doing a tour with Jari
    on bass. Apparently he again had financial problems due to his failed
    opera project. He then quickly dismissed the idea himself.

    "In
    short it's not so much a story of simmering discontent leading to a
    wise and respectable decision. It's definitely not a story of naiveté.
    It's the story of Faust, the story of madness, of a band's
    natural and slow decline, but in the end something mundane: the story
    of a supreme narcissist going broke and betraying friends of 12 years
    who helped save him a few years earlier.

    "Hopefully this
    explains the situation a little bit. Sorry if it is long on business
    crap, and short on humor or music. This was a terrible, disaapointing
    blow to us.

    "We would like to thank our fans who make it all worth it, and despite it all, we would like to thank Timo for the past, the nice music and the good moments.

    "The
    rest of us want to make clear that we are doing great and that we will
    continue making music together, because we care about each other and we
    care about our fans. We have grand plans indeed, and we will have some
    very interesting news in the months ahead!"
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    Mensaje por kiquerocks Jue 08 Mayo 2008, 08:35

    Creo que nunca debieron volver a juntarse....

    Por cierto, el disco último "Stratovarius" está por ahí a 6-7 €...¿vale la pena?
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    Mensaje por Albytor Jue 08 Mayo 2008, 09:09

    kiquerocks escribió:Creo que nunca debieron volver a juntarse....

    Por cierto, el disco último "Stratovarius" está por ahí a 6-7 €...¿vale la pena?

    A mi que no soy fan, aunque me gusta algún que otro tema, ese disco me resultó curioso, pero no suena a Stratovarius (ni un sólo doble bombo o ritmo galopante en todo el disco). Los fans lo ponen a parir y el grupo también.
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    Mensaje por Ernie Jue 08 Mayo 2008, 11:09

    No entiendo ni media de lo que dicen los ex-Stratovarius pero me lo imagino, el ultimo disco es raro y flojo pero a su vez tiene algun momento lucido en sus canciones, no se es algo extraño ahora suena poco a lo que nos tenian acostumbrados

    Y si el grupo nunca debio volver y en la epoca de los Elements separse tras el primero diria yo o incluso antes
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    Mensaje por Gonzalorock Jue 08 Mayo 2008, 20:28

    Es increible, ¿Soy el único que cree que los 2 Elements y su disco "póstumo" no son malos? Creo que en cada CD hay buenos temas.

    Lo de los mensajes de cada una de las partes, la verdad es que sobra. A mi me la suda, lo único que importa es la música y, como tal, es una pena que desaparezcan.
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    Mensaje por luis ignacio Jue 08 Mayo 2008, 21:38

    Yo siempre digo lo mismo, los mejores discos para mi de la banda Finlandesa, son:

    Episode y Visions


    El resto de discos apartir de Visions, solo se salvaba Destiny, a partir de ahí.....
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    Mensaje por mercenary Mar 11 Ene 2011, 21:46

    No devieron juntarse con tolkki ni haber grabado el album negro por culpa de tolkki la banda casi se deshacen menos mal que lo han hechado y estan solos con dos magnificos musicos Lauri Porra y Matias Kupiainen.

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